By: J-20 Hotdog
- 7th March 2012 at 01:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
ietnam isn't the same as what it was in the 70's or 80's, they are starting to open right up again. IMHO 6 Sigmas (the bigger versions with the organic helo) would compliment the Gepards rather well. Vietnam has a good navy and why should they limit their options to one source for arms supply. India offering Brahmos makes sence too, they are becoming a formidable supplier of weapons and the quallity of their weapons if becoming comparible to those of both east and west!
Wow, you can certainly see the origins of the Peoples Navy in these pics- just don't mention the French to them and you will be ok ;)
indeed, Russia has few good allies (i don't use friends here), but Vietnam is one of them.. many common interests.. and fortunately far enough from each other to limit potential problems (neighbors tend to suck) :diablo:
But nevertheless, yes..Vietnam is diversifying.. still buying Russian of course..but what I've seen: Dutch ships, Israeli tank upgrades, Polish Helicopters, French helicopters, Polish transports, among others..
By: panda
- 13th March 2012 at 04:18Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
News agency Lenta said that with the help of Israel, Vietnam People's Army will upgrade all of about 10 T-54/55 tank battalions, each battalion equipped with 31 tanks.
According to the public, as of 2010, Vietnam have 850 T-54/55 tanks manufactured by the Soviet Union. In addition, Vietnam has about 350 medium tanks of the Chinese Type 59, the modernization variants from T-54 tanks.
In the coming years, there will be about 310 T-54/55 tanks modern upgrades. upgrade testing sample T-55M3 tanks in Vietnam is improving, both in terms of firepower and defensive capabilities.
Tank modernization T-54/55M3 equipped M68/L7 105 mm artillery of Israel. L7 cannon can fire bullets APAM, or cross bar kinetic energy rounds.
T-54/55 tanks are equipped with 60mm mortar on the roof. 60 mm mortars are being deployed on the main battle tanks Magach and Mekava of Israel. With the support of 60 mm mortars, tanks can attack more effective against infantry hiding in fortifications, trenches, or other buildings.
tanks are equipped with the upgraded equipment MAWS6056B meteorological sensors by the Swiss company Idram. MAWS6056B sensors provide meteorological parameters like wind direction and speed, temperature and atmospheric pressure for computing trajectories of artillery. MAWS6056B modern sensors use for the French Leclerc tanks
Defense systems, tanks fitted with explosive reactive armor boxes of Israeli Blazer ERA against hollow explosive ammunition, bullet B-41 grenade launcher (RPG-7) ..Flanks of the vehicle turret is also fitted tube system smoke grenades, to release smoke when the laser beam, or aim.
tanks were installed to modernize 1,000 HP diesel engine developed by German manufacturing. With this engine, the ability to move the tanks will be increased significantly. Gearbox and transmission system of the engine developed by Ukraine.
In the last exercise in 2011, T-55M3 tanks took part in fire tested and rated, in which the vehicle was able to shoot while traveling forward, the ability to turn the turret is also faster than before. Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
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By: J-20 Hotdog
- 13th March 2012 at 17:30Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
News agency Lenta said that with the help of Israel, Vietnam People's Army will upgrade all of about 10 T-54/55 tank battalions, each battalion equipped with 31 tanks.
According to the public, as of 2010, Vietnam have 850 T-54/55 tanks manufactured by the Soviet Union. In addition, Vietnam has about 350 medium tanks of the Chinese Type 59, the modernization variants from T-54 tanks.
In the coming years, there will be about 310 T-54/55 tanks modern upgrades. upgrade testing sample T-55M3 tanks in Vietnam is improving, both in terms of firepower and defensive capabilities.
Tank modernization T-54/55M3 equipped M68/L7 105 mm artillery of Israel. L7 cannon can fire bullets APAM, or cross bar kinetic energy rounds.
T-54/55 tanks are equipped with 60mm mortar on the roof. 60 mm mortars are being deployed on the main battle tanks Magach and Mekava of Israel. With the support of 60 mm mortars, tanks can attack more effective against infantry hiding in fortifications, trenches, or other buildings.
tanks are equipped with the upgraded equipment MAWS6056B meteorological sensors by the Swiss company Idram. MAWS6056B sensors provide meteorological parameters like wind direction and speed, temperature and atmospheric pressure for computing trajectories of artillery. MAWS6056B modern sensors use for the French Leclerc tanks
Defense systems, tanks fitted with explosive reactive armor boxes of Israeli Blazer ERA against hollow explosive ammunition, bullet B-41 grenade launcher (RPG-7) ..Flanks of the vehicle turret is also fitted tube system smoke grenades, to release smoke when the laser beam, or aim.
tanks were installed to modernize 1,000 HP diesel engine developed by German manufacturing. With this engine, the ability to move the tanks will be increased significantly. Gearbox and transmission system of the engine developed by Ukraine.
In the last exercise in 2011, T-55M3 tanks took part in fire tested and rated, in which the vehicle was able to shoot while traveling forward, the ability to turn the turret is also faster than before. Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
interesting, they are switching to 105mm on their tanks.. must mean huge change in their ammo stocks. Israeli, swiss, and french stuff too.. looks like they are serious in diversifying their weapons procurement
By: Reddor
- 13th March 2012 at 22:14Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps China should return the favor and arm the neighbors of Israel with their own equipment. The way Vietnam is arming itself nowadays this has potential to be a pot stirring situation. :o
By: TR1
- 13th March 2012 at 22:17Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps China should return the favor and arm the neighbors of Israel with their own equipment. The way Vietnam is arming itself nowadays this has potential to be a pot stirring situation. :o
I suspect Vietnam's arming has to do with China's huge defense budget increases over the past decade.
By: swerve
- 13th March 2012 at 22:33Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps China should return the favor and arm the neighbors of Israel with their own equipment. The way Vietnam is arming itself nowadays this has potential to be a pot stirring situation. :o
It's just business. The Israelis are selling on commercial terms. They were happy to supply China, e.g. with Harpy anti-radar drones & Phalcon AEW, until the USA leant on 'em.
Vietnam's forces are no threat to China. They're only meant to be enough to make the Chinese think twice before bullying Vietnam. No pot stirring there.
What is there to retaliate for? And what neighbours does Israel have that it would be unhappy about China selling weapons to on the same terms Israel sells to Vietnam, i.e. at a profit? JF-17s to Egypt? So what?
By: swerve
- 13th March 2012 at 22:35Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
interesting, they are switching to 105mm on their tanks.. must mean huge change in their ammo stocks. Israeli, swiss, and french stuff too.. looks like they are serious in diversifying their weapons procurement
Ammunition doesn't last forever. They'd have to replace a lot of it anyway. The 100mm shells which aren't time-expired will do for the unmodernised tanks.
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By: J-20 Hotdog
- 13th March 2012 at 22:56Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps China should return the favor and arm the neighbors of Israel with their own equipment. The way Vietnam is arming itself nowadays this has potential to be a pot stirring situation. :o
so if China can build numbers of new ships, modernize a carrier, build new airplanes, etc.. Vietnam is not allowed to do the same?
By: hoapilot
- 20th March 2012 at 12:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: Wanshan
- 21st March 2012 at 21:56Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Interesting, esp. because the Gepards don't carry Kashtan but rather Palma/Palash and hence a different SAM.
Palma (NATO designation CADS-N-2), also referred-to as Palash-Palma, uses the main principles in the Kortik/Kashtan CIWS but is designed for use with SACLOS (Semi-Automatic Command to Line of Sight) missiles, such as the Russian Federation Sosna-R (9M337) and western systems such as Stinger and Mistral. Development was completed in 2003.
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it is expected to be deployed at sea operationally for the first time in a Vietnamese Gepard-class frigate
By: panda
- 23rd March 2012 at 07:44Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
SIPRI: Vietnam arms imports
19 March 2012, SIPRI (Sweden) has published data on market weapons and military equipment Vietnam, 2007-2011. Russia, Romania, Ukraine and Canada are the main arms supplier countries are mentioned in the SIPRI report.
Air Force
In 2010, Vietnam has signed with Canada DHC-6 Twin buy 6 Otter (DHC-6-400). Expected that the aircraft will be handed over to Vietnam from 2012 to 2014.
In 2008, Vietnam has ordered 10 Yak-52 trainer aircraft from Romania . From 2009 - 2011, Romania has already handed over to Vietnam Air Force 10 Yak-52.
to modernize air force, in 2009, Vietnam has ordered 08 Russian Su-30MK/Flanker fighters (Su-30MK2V enhanced ability to Sea ) with values U.S. $ 400-500 million. Russia has been completed and handed over to Vietnam 08 aircraft in the period 2010-2011.
In 2010 Vietnam ordered more 12 Su-30MK2V with value $ 1 billion. Russia has transferred 08 planes to Vietnam in 2011, 04 Su-30MK2V are scheduled to be delivered in 2012.
However, in early March 2012,01 Su-30MK2V during flight tests were crash.
In 2011, Russia delivered to Vietnam 40 Kh-31A1 air-to-ship missiles in total of 80 missiles were ordered in 2009. SIPRI noted that these missiles including anti-radar missile Kh-31P, and will be use for the Su-30MK2V.
In 2010-2011, Vietnam has received 150 missiles advanced air-to-air R-73 (AA-11 Archer) of the 250 missiles ordered in 2009. R-73 missile can equipped with Su-30MK2V.
2009-2011, Russia has transferred to Vietnam 100 KAB-500/1500 controlled bomb, in a total of 200 ordered since 2009.
Defense Air Force
In 1996, Vietnam has ordered Russia 400 air defense missile portable Igla (SA-16 gimlet). 340 missiles were delivered to Vietnam in the period 1999-2011.
Igla missiles sea-to-air (SA-N-10) will be installed on the battleship BPS-500 (Ho-A), Svetlyak patrol boat (Project 10412) and Project 1241.1 missile ship.
In 2009, Vietnam has ordered Ukraine 04 Kolchuga passive radar systems worth $ 54 million USD.
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By: El_Indigo - 6th March 2012 at 08:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Very likely, seeing as Tatarstan is armed with new Kh-35's. Or at least I take it, it is.
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201203020908-mijg.htm
(between 1:05 and 1:20)
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By: J-20 Hotdog - 7th March 2012 at 01:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
indeed, Russia has few good allies (i don't use friends here), but Vietnam is one of them.. many common interests.. and fortunately far enough from each other to limit potential problems (neighbors tend to suck) :diablo:
But nevertheless, yes..Vietnam is diversifying.. still buying Russian of course..but what I've seen: Dutch ships, Israeli tank upgrades, Polish Helicopters, French helicopters, Polish transports, among others..
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By: hoapilot - 10th March 2012 at 08:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
New weapons for Vietnam Naval Infantry !
... import from Israel :D
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By: Ja Worsley - 10th March 2012 at 10:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why is Vietnam importing Vietnamese Soliders from Isreal?
:p
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By: hoapilot - 10th March 2012 at 12:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:D
New project .... in Spratly island ;)
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By: Ja Worsley - 10th March 2012 at 22:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ahhhhhhh Club Med Spratley Islands, awesome. That should bring a few Dong's to Vietnam (and I'm not talking currency) :dev2:
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By: J-20 Hotdog - 11th March 2012 at 17:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
which is from israel, gun or helmet? both?
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By: hoapilot - 12th March 2012 at 10:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Gun and helmet import from Israel:DIn the future, VPA will be produced CTAR-21 and ammunition under license Israel:D
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By: panda - 13th March 2012 at 04:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
News agency Lenta said that with the help of Israel, Vietnam People's Army will upgrade all of about 10 T-54/55 tank battalions, each battalion equipped with 31 tanks.
According to the public, as of 2010, Vietnam have 850 T-54/55 tanks manufactured by the Soviet Union. In addition, Vietnam has about 350 medium tanks of the Chinese Type 59, the modernization variants from T-54 tanks.
In the coming years, there will be about 310 T-54/55 tanks modern upgrades. upgrade testing sample T-55M3 tanks in Vietnam is improving, both in terms of firepower and defensive capabilities.
Tank modernization T-54/55M3 equipped M68/L7 105 mm artillery of Israel. L7 cannon can fire bullets APAM, or cross bar kinetic energy rounds.
T-54/55 tanks are equipped with 60mm mortar on the roof. 60 mm mortars are being deployed on the main battle tanks Magach and Mekava of Israel. With the support of 60 mm mortars, tanks can attack more effective against infantry hiding in fortifications, trenches, or other buildings.
tanks are equipped with the upgraded equipment MAWS6056B meteorological sensors by the Swiss company Idram. MAWS6056B sensors provide meteorological parameters like wind direction and speed, temperature and atmospheric pressure for computing trajectories of artillery. MAWS6056B modern sensors use for the French Leclerc tanks
Defense systems, tanks fitted with explosive reactive armor boxes of Israeli Blazer ERA against hollow explosive ammunition, bullet B-41 grenade launcher (RPG-7) ..Flanks of the vehicle turret is also fitted tube system smoke grenades, to release smoke when the laser beam, or aim.
tanks were installed to modernize 1,000 HP diesel engine developed by German manufacturing. With this engine, the ability to move the tanks will be increased significantly. Gearbox and transmission system of the engine developed by Ukraine.
In the last exercise in 2011, T-55M3 tanks took part in fire tested and rated, in which the vehicle was able to shoot while traveling forward, the ability to turn the turret is also faster than before.
Vietnam upgraded T-54/55 tanks
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By: J-20 Hotdog - 13th March 2012 at 17:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
interesting, they are switching to 105mm on their tanks.. must mean huge change in their ammo stocks. Israeli, swiss, and french stuff too.. looks like they are serious in diversifying their weapons procurement
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By: Reddor - 13th March 2012 at 22:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps China should return the favor and arm the neighbors of Israel with their own equipment. The way Vietnam is arming itself nowadays this has potential to be a pot stirring situation. :o
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By: TR1 - 13th March 2012 at 22:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I suspect Vietnam's arming has to do with China's huge defense budget increases over the past decade.
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By: swerve - 13th March 2012 at 22:33 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It's just business. The Israelis are selling on commercial terms. They were happy to supply China, e.g. with Harpy anti-radar drones & Phalcon AEW, until the USA leant on 'em.
Vietnam's forces are no threat to China. They're only meant to be enough to make the Chinese think twice before bullying Vietnam. No pot stirring there.
What is there to retaliate for? And what neighbours does Israel have that it would be unhappy about China selling weapons to on the same terms Israel sells to Vietnam, i.e. at a profit? JF-17s to Egypt? So what?
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By: swerve - 13th March 2012 at 22:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ammunition doesn't last forever. They'd have to replace a lot of it anyway. The 100mm shells which aren't time-expired will do for the unmodernised tanks.
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By: J-20 Hotdog - 13th March 2012 at 22:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
so if China can build numbers of new ships, modernize a carrier, build new airplanes, etc.. Vietnam is not allowed to do the same?
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By: hoapilot - 15th March 2012 at 12:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
T-54/55M3 will be used to Urban warfare :cool: Vietnam imported unknown Kornet-E launchers, licence produce RPG-29 from Russia ...
... in Spratly island ( Truong Sa Lon island )
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By: hoapilot - 16th March 2012 at 12:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Vietnam Navy received more gunboats !
Naval Region 5 receives two Svetlyak gunboats and NR 2 receives TT-400TP gunboats
Link video :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vCOhcqdMqp0
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By: hoapilot - 20th March 2012 at 12:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: Wanshan - 21st March 2012 at 21:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Interesting, esp. because the Gepards don't carry Kashtan but rather Palma/Palash and hence a different SAM.
http://articles.janes.com/articles/Janes-Naval-Weapon-Systems/Palma-Palash-PalmaPalista-Russian-Federation.html
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By: panda - 23rd March 2012 at 07:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
SIPRI: Vietnam arms imports
19 March 2012, SIPRI (Sweden) has published data on market weapons and military equipment Vietnam, 2007-2011. Russia, Romania, Ukraine and Canada are the main arms supplier countries are mentioned in the SIPRI report.
Air Force
In 2010, Vietnam has signed with Canada DHC-6 Twin buy 6 Otter (DHC-6-400). Expected that the aircraft will be handed over to Vietnam from 2012 to 2014.
In 2008, Vietnam has ordered 10 Yak-52 trainer aircraft from Romania . From 2009 - 2011, Romania has already handed over to Vietnam Air Force 10 Yak-52.
to modernize air force, in 2009, Vietnam has ordered 08 Russian Su-30MK/Flanker fighters (Su-30MK2V enhanced ability to Sea ) with values U.S. $ 400-500 million. Russia has been completed and handed over to Vietnam 08 aircraft in the period 2010-2011.
In 2010 Vietnam ordered more 12 Su-30MK2V with value $ 1 billion. Russia has transferred 08 planes to Vietnam in 2011, 04 Su-30MK2V are scheduled to be delivered in 2012.
However, in early March 2012,01 Su-30MK2V during flight tests were crash.
In 2011, Russia delivered to Vietnam 40 Kh-31A1 air-to-ship missiles in total of 80 missiles were ordered in 2009. SIPRI noted that these missiles including anti-radar missile Kh-31P, and will be use for the Su-30MK2V.
In 2010-2011, Vietnam has received 150 missiles advanced air-to-air R-73 (AA-11 Archer) of the 250 missiles ordered in 2009. R-73 missile can equipped with Su-30MK2V.
2009-2011, Russia has transferred to Vietnam 100 KAB-500/1500 controlled bomb, in a total of 200 ordered since 2009.
Defense Air Force
In 1996, Vietnam has ordered Russia 400 air defense missile portable Igla (SA-16 gimlet). 340 missiles were delivered to Vietnam in the period 1999-2011.
Igla missiles sea-to-air (SA-N-10) will be installed on the battleship BPS-500 (Ho-A), Svetlyak patrol boat (Project 10412) and Project 1241.1 missile ship.
In 2009, Vietnam has ordered Ukraine 04 Kolchuga passive radar systems worth $ 54 million USD.
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