By: connie freak
- 27th June 2015 at 12:17Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Do any of you guys collect model airliners ? I do, and also have some old travel agency models. Anybody go to "Heathrow" or LGW Aviation fairs ? I meet up with Dennis Judd and Vince Gibb ("Albert") sometimes. Ring any bells. Vince still shoots and collects slides.
By: connie freak
- 14th July 2015 at 23:58Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for posting pics. Love the tin PanAm DC-7c. Do the props start up and door open automatically ? (Like the NorthWest similar version?
Very interesting pic of the ill-fated 'NRR of Hunting Clan. Was the vehicle gap just further up as in the Trans Atlantica starliner shot ? Or
had the gap yet to be created ?
By: longshot
- 15th July 2015 at 00:10Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, the DC-7C works...props spin, does a taxy routine, doors open. The steps come from another DC-&C in TWA colours :-(
Not sure about the gap at the chicane...might be a movable fence...on reflection, I think you're right
I like this one of the southeast corner of the Central Ground enclosure from flickr...year is either 1954 or 1955 and the QB isn't quite finished
By: connie freak
- 18th July 2015 at 19:51Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Longshot, these are great pics. Haven't seen these before. Wonderful pieces of history. I visited this enclosure a few times in 1958 and saw the first DC-8 to visit LAP, depart from there. I hadn't remembered it extending out to the ramp as much as shown in your photos. Did they trim it back a bit by 1958 ?
By: longshot
- 19th July 2015 at 00:58Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I didn't take these...they're from negatives Paul Seymour/flickr found in his house. Not sure how much the fence was moved...perhaps a bit. It was quite a large area overall.
By: connie freak
- 19th July 2015 at 19:20Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Just found this pic that I've downloaded from somewhere. It shows the area of the open enclosure at the central area over the tunnel. Maybe I got it from this site ? Sorry if its been on already.
By: daveg4otu
- 19th July 2015 at 20:28Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If I remember correctly, my early visits (late 54/55/56...by Royal Blue coach from Southampton) the enclosure was over the Tunnel..completely open just a fence to keep us of the actual live airfield. The only facilities were a couple of sheds that sold icecreams etc(small beach hut size). The tannoy played pop music in between announcements and certainly at one time , whoever chose the records had a liking for Kay Starr's Rock and Roll Waltz which they played endlessly.
By: longshot
- 19th July 2015 at 20:43Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
they had a spectator enclosure there at one stage in the 50s
the first enclosure I can remember was on the North side and having to cross a taxiway to get to it, must have been 49/50
See my post #155 page 6 this thread for a timeline of the enclosures....the one you're thinking of was 1953 Coronation year...(there was later a public enclosure temporarily by the old Fairey hangar in Oct 1953 for the UK-NZ air race)
By: AF1049G
- 30th March 2016 at 00:54Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sitting in the armchair one evening, doodling on the iPad, I came across this forum and found my name mentioned by Conniefreak, aka Graham, or Tom as I remember him.
The LAP North Mob proved to be not only an important part of my teens, charging around the country and Europe, sleeping in bus stations, tents, on airfields as well as uncomfortable nights spent in cars, but gave me the confidence to travel the world in my later years.
Here are some more names from the past, to add to Tom's list, some of you may well remember them. Bill Wood, the best man at my wedding, Ken Wilkinson who married one of the bridesmaids, Ron Cawte, Clive Stringer, John Bannister, Ken Heywood, Norman Smith, Dave Woods, Mike Ballard (ginger Kingston), Mick Jeffries, Graham Fiske (pont) and a few names I cannot remember but included "Hammersmith", Monnee and "Titch".
A comment on the picture of "Pot Pinner" standing by a car. It was taken at Tousses and almost certainly during the 1961 Paris show. I shared a room with him at the "Hotel Family" during that Paris show. The hotel was completely filled with the LAP North Mob.
My forum tag was inspired by the return flight from the 1961 show on an Air France L1049G, complete with tip tanks!! One of my two most memorable flights, the other was an internal flight in Nepal with Buddah Air.
By: connie freak
- 17th April 2016 at 19:38Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sitting in the armchair one evening, doodling on the iPad, I came across this forum and found my name mentioned by Conniefreak, aka Graham, or Tom as I remember him.
The LAP North Mob proved to be not only an important part of my teens, charging around the country and Europe, sleeping in bus stations, tents, on airfields as well as uncomfortable nights spent in cars, but gave me the confidence to travel the world in my later years.
Here are some more names from the past, to add to Tom's list, some of you may well remember them. Bill Wood, the best man at my wedding, Ken Wilkinson who married one of the bridesmaids, Ron Cawte, Clive Stringer, John Bannister, Ken Heywood, Norman Smith, Dave Woods, Mike Ballard (ginger Kingston), Mick Jeffries, Graham Fiske (pont) and a few names I cannot remember but included "Hammersmith", Monnee and "Titch".
A comment on the picture of "Pot Pinner" standing by a car. It was taken at Tousses and almost certainly during the 1961 Paris show. I shared a room with him at the "Hotel Family" during that Paris show. The hotel was completely filled with the LAP North Mob.
My forum tag was inspired by the return flight from the 1961 show on an Air France L1049G, complete with tip tanks!! One of my two most memorable flights, the other was an internal flight in Nepal with Buddah Air.
Roger M.
Hi Roger,
Where have you been for the last 50 years ? Some good pics on here. Are you still in the area ? 07775 520063 will find me. I still see Snoggs from the south side and "Albert" (Vince).Still have all my Buddy Holly vinyls!
By: longshot
- 19th April 2016 at 00:20Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi conniefreak...Trying to think of Heathrow topics I've come across in the last 9 months. there's a recent book by civil engineer Ian Anderson on the infrastructure 'Tents to Terminal 5'... Air Britain Archive articles on BEA's move to Heathrow, the RAeS Heathrow Garden Parties in the 1930s.
Always photos going through ebay and on the photosites
Edit: the Google Arts and Culture links work best with Chrome browser
By: connie freak
- 19th April 2016 at 07:31Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I particularly liked that shot of 4R-ACH because it has a good general view of those North side buildings in the background.....very fitting. And the view of the first jet trans Atlantic check in was a beaut too.
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By: charliehunt - 17th June 2015 at 17:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Unadulterated nostalgia for an aeroplane mad lad growing up in Middlesex after the war!!;)
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By: longshot - 17th June 2015 at 17:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I liked the departure chalk-board with an early BSAA flight recorded L.A.P.-LANGLEY!! :-)
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By: connie freak - 27th June 2015 at 12:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Do any of you guys collect model airliners ? I do, and also have some old travel agency models. Anybody go to "Heathrow" or LGW Aviation fairs ? I meet up with Dennis Judd and Vince Gibb ("Albert") sometimes. Ring any bells. Vince still shoots and collects slides.
Tom
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By: longshot - 14th July 2015 at 13:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I have a collection of tinplate airliners ('litho tin' in U.S.)
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjpDo2S6
Just noticed this shot of a Hunting Clan Viscount by the chicane bend at the eastern end of the LAP North tarmac
"Vickers Viscount 732 G-ANRR Hunting Clan LAP 05.09.55 edited-2" by RuthAS - Own work. Licensed under CC BY 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons.
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By: connie freak - 14th July 2015 at 23:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks for posting pics. Love the tin PanAm DC-7c. Do the props start up and door open automatically ? (Like the NorthWest similar version?
Very interesting pic of the ill-fated 'NRR of Hunting Clan. Was the vehicle gap just further up as in the Trans Atlantica starliner shot ? Or
had the gap yet to be created ?
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By: longshot - 15th July 2015 at 00:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, the DC-7C works...props spin, does a taxy routine, doors open. The steps come from another DC-&C in TWA colours :-(
Not sure about the gap at the chicane...might be a movable fence...on reflection, I think you're right
I like this one of the southeast corner of the Central Ground enclosure from flickr...year is either 1954 or 1955 and the QB isn't quite finished
and this is closeby
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By: connie freak - 18th July 2015 at 19:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thanks Longshot, these are great pics. Haven't seen these before. Wonderful pieces of history. I visited this enclosure a few times in 1958 and saw the first DC-8 to visit LAP, depart from there. I hadn't remembered it extending out to the ramp as much as shown in your photos. Did they trim it back a bit by 1958 ?
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By: longshot - 19th July 2015 at 00:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I didn't take these...they're from negatives Paul Seymour/flickr found in his house. Not sure how much the fence was moved...perhaps a bit. It was quite a large area overall.
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By: connie freak - 19th July 2015 at 19:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Just found this pic that I've downloaded from somewhere. It shows the area of the open enclosure at the central area over the tunnel. Maybe I got it from this site ? Sorry if its been on already.
Tom Bridges
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By: nibb100 - 19th July 2015 at 19:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
they had a spectator enclosure there at one stage in the 50s
the first enclosure I can remember was on the North side and having to cross a taxiway to get to it, must have been 49/50
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By: connie freak - 19th July 2015 at 20:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, this is it in its heyday.....how things have changed.
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By: daveg4otu - 19th July 2015 at 20:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If I remember correctly, my early visits (late 54/55/56...by Royal Blue coach from Southampton) the enclosure was over the Tunnel..completely open just a fence to keep us of the actual live airfield. The only facilities were a couple of sheds that sold icecreams etc(small beach hut size). The tannoy played pop music in between announcements and certainly at one time , whoever chose the records had a liking for Kay Starr's Rock and Roll Waltz which they played endlessly.
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By: longshot - 19th July 2015 at 20:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
See my post #155 page 6 this thread for a timeline of the enclosures....the one you're thinking of was 1953 Coronation year...(there was later a public enclosure temporarily by the old Fairey hangar in Oct 1953 for the UK-NZ air race)
Here's some Flickr galleries for Heathrow 1953, 1955, 1958 [work in progress :-) ]
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74784995@N00/galleries/72157655686007878/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74784995@N00/galleries/72157655685112838/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74784995@N00/galleries/72157656095671691/
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By: AF1049G - 30th March 2016 at 00:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sitting in the armchair one evening, doodling on the iPad, I came across this forum and found my name mentioned by Conniefreak, aka Graham, or Tom as I remember him.
The LAP North Mob proved to be not only an important part of my teens, charging around the country and Europe, sleeping in bus stations, tents, on airfields as well as uncomfortable nights spent in cars, but gave me the confidence to travel the world in my later years.
Here are some more names from the past, to add to Tom's list, some of you may well remember them. Bill Wood, the best man at my wedding, Ken Wilkinson who married one of the bridesmaids, Ron Cawte, Clive Stringer, John Bannister, Ken Heywood, Norman Smith, Dave Woods, Mike Ballard (ginger Kingston), Mick Jeffries, Graham Fiske (pont) and a few names I cannot remember but included "Hammersmith", Monnee and "Titch".
A comment on the picture of "Pot Pinner" standing by a car. It was taken at Tousses and almost certainly during the 1961 Paris show. I shared a room with him at the "Hotel Family" during that Paris show. The hotel was completely filled with the LAP North Mob.
My forum tag was inspired by the return flight from the 1961 show on an Air France L1049G, complete with tip tanks!! One of my two most memorable flights, the other was an internal flight in Nepal with Buddah Air.
Roger M.
Posts: 70
By: connie freak - 17th April 2016 at 19:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Roger,
Where have you been for the last 50 years ? Some good pics on here. Are you still in the area ? 07775 520063 will find me. I still see Snoggs from the south side and "Albert" (Vince).Still have all my Buddy Holly vinyls!
Tom
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By: connie freak - 18th April 2016 at 20:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Roger, I think Titch was Dave Stuart? He had a Mini and wore glasses.
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By: connie freak - 18th April 2016 at 20:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The 2 pics in post 297 are Barry Page and Brian Harris. (I found it impossible to edit the post itself to add these names)
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By: longshot - 19th April 2016 at 00:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi conniefreak...Trying to think of Heathrow topics I've come across in the last 9 months. there's a recent book by civil engineer Ian Anderson on the infrastructure 'Tents to Terminal 5'... Air Britain Archive articles on BEA's move to Heathrow, the RAeS Heathrow Garden Parties in the 1930s.
Always photos going through ebay and on the photosites
Edit: the Google Arts and Culture links work best with Chrome browser
e.g.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Boeing-YC-97-Stratocruiser-N9540C-original-not-period-photograph-/331759544448?hash=item4d3e68e880%3Ag%3AjWsAAOSwpRRWoQYJ&nma=true&si=HnQKCc7OMg8HtPTICwr2PRMwQOw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WINGLESS-PIPERS-c1950s-original-negative-ref-photo-/131744301554?hash=item1eac9281f2%3Ag%3AlKEAAOSwv9hW2ybu&nma=true&si=HnQKCc7OMg8HtPTICwr2PRMwQOw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIR-CEYLON-CONSTELLATION-4R-ACH-c1950s-original-negative-ref-photo-/141903115368?hash=item210a15b468%3Ag%3A03MAAOSwPc9Wv3Lk&nma=true&si=HnQKCc7OMg8HtPTICwr2PRMwQOw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
There's a newish presentation of the LIFE photos on the Google Cultural Institute
https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/browse/kauffman%20jet
https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/browse/kauffman%20comet
https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/jet/4AFLdmndVY2GPw
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By: connie freak - 19th April 2016 at 07:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I particularly liked that shot of 4R-ACH because it has a good general view of those North side buildings in the background.....very fitting. And the view of the first jet trans Atlantic check in was a beaut too.
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By: longshot - 14th September 2016 at 17:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This photo goes back to about 1947 on LAP North
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0y4AAOSwYSlXh6P6/s-l1600.jpg