By: Don Chan
- 24th October 2006 at 14:52Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
] you welcome
Fascinating.
My first impression: "Think Russian." 8D
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By: Meat
- 25th October 2006 at 03:18Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Great shots, thanks for posting them.
I do have a question: It seems like in all the cockpit photos I see of Russian jets, they almost always have that aqua blue-green color for the metal used on the consoles, inner walls, etc. Is there a reason for that?
By: Flanker_man
- 25th October 2006 at 12:25Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Great shots, thanks for posting them.
I do have a question: It seems like in all the cockpit photos I see of Russian jets, they almost always have that aqua blue-green color for the metal used on the consoles, inner walls, etc. Is there a reason for that?
It was never on all aircraft - Sukhoi didn't use it much.
It was apparently scientifically designed as the best colours to avoid strain on the pilot's eyes.
It was introduced onto later model MiG-21's, the MiG-23 had it, as did the 25 & 31.
Most Tupolev airliners had it - as did the Tu-95 & Tu-22M2
The MiG-29, Su-25, Su-27 family and Tu-160 all have a pale blue-grey colour.
Most of the earlier Sukhois - Su-7/9/11 appear to have had black/grey cockpit colours.
IIRC, the Su-15 had the green turquoise colour you describe ?
Ken
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By: flex297
- 25th October 2006 at 13:29Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It was never on all aircraft - Sukhoi didn't use it much.
In fact, Sukhoi did not use the striking colors at all. Same goes for Yakovlev.
It was introduced onto later model MiG-21's, the MiG-23 had it, as did the 25 & 31.
Most Tupolev airliners had it - as did the Tu-95 & Tu-22M2.
Another aircraft would be MiG-27s and Hungarian AF L-39 Albatrosses (don't ask me why).
The MiG-29, Su-25, Su-27 family and Tu-160 all have a pale blue-grey colour.
Same for Yak-130, Yak-41 and many other aircraft.
IIRC, the Su-15 had the green turquoise colour you describe ?Ken
Nope. Su-15s had black IP and grey cockpit sidewalls.
By: ha27
- 25th October 2006 at 13:32Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm believe that toilet its a big untruth,any one can proven the truth-only by pic-
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By: flex297
- 25th October 2006 at 13:53Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm believe that toilet its a big untruth,any one can proven the truth-only by pic-
Why? Portable commercial chemical toilets weigh some 5-6 kg and can be used even in caravans. All you need to install one in Su-34 is a place 40x60cm. No problem at all.
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By: MiG-23MLD
- 25th October 2006 at 14:24Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Want to see it in video watch it
this is the Su-34 cockpit
"Russia’s Air Forces to Have Su-34 Fighter-Bomber Tue"
July 30, 2007
The Air Forces of Russia will get first Su-34 fighter-bomber on Tuesday, RIA Novosti reported with reference to Colonel Alexander Drobyshevsky, aide to the Air Forces commander-in-chief.
[Seriously, anyone has a photo of the Su-34 kitchen and toilet yet?]
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By: Anonymous
- 31st July 2007 at 09:11Permalink- Edited 16th October 2019 at 10:23
do have a question: It seems like in all the cockpit photos I see of Russian jets, they almost always have that aqua blue-green color for the metal used on the consoles, inner walls, etc. Is there a reason for that?
The purpose of the green colour is to lighten up the cockpit. Having a black cockpit makes that cockpit look darker and can make the instruments harder to read.... in the same way that using white text on a black page is harder to read because it appears darker... especially under different light conditions.
By: Flanker_man
- 31st July 2007 at 10:51Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The purpose of the green colour is to lighten up the cockpit. Having a black cockpit makes that cockpit look darker and can make the instruments harder to read.... in the same way that using white text on a black page is harder to read because it appears darker... especially under different light conditions.
The turquoise cockpit colour was only used during the 1970/80's - and not on all Soviet aircraft.
It was as a result of scientific experiments to find the most 'relaxing' colour for pilots - and was used mainly on aircraft emanating from the MiG OKB - MiG-21, 23, 25 etc.
It was also used on a few Tupolev airliners (Tu-134, 154 etc) and the Il-76.
Other aircraft still had 'black' cockpits - examples being the Tu-16, An-26 etc - so it wasn't universal.
Modern Russian fighters now have a pale blue-grey colour for their cockpits - examples are the MiG-29, Su-25, Su-27 etc.
The Tu-160 'Blackjack' is also pale blue-grey.
The latest MiG though, the MiG-31, still has a turquoise cockpit!
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By: ha27 - 24th October 2006 at 08:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
thanks PiBu,please post the rear part of the cockpit
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By: flex297 - 24th October 2006 at 09:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Kudos to you, Piotr, fantastic pictures..
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By: Don Chan - 24th October 2006 at 14:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
] you welcome
Fascinating.
My first impression: "Think Russian." 8D
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By: Meat - 25th October 2006 at 03:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Great shots, thanks for posting them.
I do have a question: It seems like in all the cockpit photos I see of Russian jets, they almost always have that aqua blue-green color for the metal used on the consoles, inner walls, etc. Is there a reason for that?
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By: press - 25th October 2006 at 10:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That colour isn`t hard on your eyes. It doesn`t tire your eyes.
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By: Flanker_man - 25th October 2006 at 12:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It was never on all aircraft - Sukhoi didn't use it much.
It was apparently scientifically designed as the best colours to avoid strain on the pilot's eyes.
It was introduced onto later model MiG-21's, the MiG-23 had it, as did the 25 & 31.
Most Tupolev airliners had it - as did the Tu-95 & Tu-22M2
The MiG-29, Su-25, Su-27 family and Tu-160 all have a pale blue-grey colour.
Most of the earlier Sukhois - Su-7/9/11 appear to have had black/grey cockpit colours.
IIRC, the Su-15 had the green turquoise colour you describe ?
Ken
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By: flex297 - 25th October 2006 at 13:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
In fact, Sukhoi did not use the striking colors at all. Same goes for Yakovlev. Another aircraft would be MiG-27s and Hungarian AF L-39 Albatrosses (don't ask me why). Same for Yak-130, Yak-41 and many other aircraft. Nope. Su-15s had black IP and grey cockpit sidewalls.Posts: 519
By: ha27 - 25th October 2006 at 13:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm believe that toilet its a big untruth,any one can proven the truth-only by pic-
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By: flex297 - 25th October 2006 at 13:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why? Portable commercial chemical toilets weigh some 5-6 kg and can be used even in caravans. All you need to install one in Su-34 is a place 40x60cm. No problem at all.Posts: 3,010
By: MiG-23MLD - 25th October 2006 at 14:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Want to see it in video watch it
this is the Su-34 cockpit
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By: Don Chan - 25th October 2006 at 16:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
] this is the Su-34 cockpit
Peachy MFDs, and smokey cannon, but "when" in the video are the holy kitchen sink and holy toilet? 8D
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By: Flanker_man - 25th October 2006 at 16:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
.....and why does a Su-37 appear in the middle of the video - doing a Cobra ??? :confused:
Ken
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By: Kusch - 25th October 2006 at 18:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
New movie SU-34 Udarnaya Sila part 2
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94050
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By: Don Chan - 16th December 2006 at 06:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Su-34
] So, let's make a contest for the first toilet picture
Sigh. The quest continues.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20061215/56969648.html
"Russian Air Force receives first advanced bombers -1"
12:01 | 15/ 12/ 2006
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By: Don Chan - 31st July 2007 at 04:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
http://www.kommersant.com/p-11130/Su-34_fighter-bomber_/
"Russia’s Air Forces to Have Su-34 Fighter-Bomber Tue"
July 30, 2007
The Air Forces of Russia will get first Su-34 fighter-bomber on Tuesday, RIA Novosti reported with reference to Colonel Alexander Drobyshevsky, aide to the Air Forces commander-in-chief.
[Seriously, anyone has a photo of the Su-34 kitchen and toilet yet?]
By: Anonymous - 31st July 2007 at 09:11 Permalink - Edited 16th October 2019 at 10:23
The purpose of the green colour is to lighten up the cockpit. Having a black cockpit makes that cockpit look darker and can make the instruments harder to read.... in the same way that using white text on a black page is harder to read because it appears darker... especially under different light conditions.
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By: Flanker_man - 31st July 2007 at 10:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The turquoise cockpit colour was only used during the 1970/80's - and not on all Soviet aircraft.
It was as a result of scientific experiments to find the most 'relaxing' colour for pilots - and was used mainly on aircraft emanating from the MiG OKB - MiG-21, 23, 25 etc.
It was also used on a few Tupolev airliners (Tu-134, 154 etc) and the Il-76.
Other aircraft still had 'black' cockpits - examples being the Tu-16, An-26 etc - so it wasn't universal.
Modern Russian fighters now have a pale blue-grey colour for their cockpits - examples are the MiG-29, Su-25, Su-27 etc.
The Tu-160 'Blackjack' is also pale blue-grey.
The latest MiG though, the MiG-31, still has a turquoise cockpit!
Ken
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By: fightingirish - 31st July 2007 at 17:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not so far, maybe a lucky Pibu or Flanker_man might get the chance at MAKS 2007 (August 21 – 26, 2007). :)
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By: aerospacetech - 31st July 2007 at 23:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Ken, the MiG-31 is the latest numerically but it entered service several years before the MiG-29, so its not really the "latest MiG".
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By: Fedaykin - 1st August 2007 at 00:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I did post a picture of the Tu204 airline cockpit a while back and it was also in that funny turquoise colour so it does get around a bit.