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By: - 7th March 2008 at 04:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Found one at this site, not sure if it is the model you are after, looks like vehicle mount type.
http://www.milweb.co.uk/classifieds/class2.php?type=quartermaster
M1919 .30 Calibre Browning
Made by General Motors and not converted to 7.62. Comes with de-ac certificate, muzzle cover, British ammo box, canvas belt with 33 inert rounds and reproduction vehicle mount (fits Mk1 Ferret, Saladin etc). £700.00 firm. Strictly no offers, but would consider exchange for genuine 7.62 Bren.
01474 822854
or here is another-this one a replica
http://www.milweb.net/webverts/33253/
By: - 7th March 2008 at 06:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As it's fitted with a pistol grip rather than twin spade grips that's most definitely for a vehicle mount.
By: - 7th March 2008 at 07:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Those are both M1919A4 .30 cal Brownings, the standard US ground LMG. Not the same as the .30 M2 aircraft gun and very different to the .303 Browning fitted to British aircraft.
Graham, Witham specialist vehicles have had a couple for sale recently, might be worth a try.
Adrian
By: - 7th March 2008 at 09:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
A lot of people are after Brownings for turrets, in good condition, I think you will find it a real struggle.
There are lots of bent ones about, have to give one a good hammering !
By: - 7th March 2008 at 10:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I notice there's no flash hiders on them. Something which I always considered of dubious value considering they were about 4" long and the weapon had a muzzle flash of about 2'
By: - 7th March 2008 at 11:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Quite, I was aware of that point but as I say they were of dubious value on turret guns though I guess that they were possibly an aid to the guy behind the guns as the muzzle flash would be less noticeable to him then.
By: - 7th March 2008 at 12:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As you can see, not all of them are bent!! :D
That's a black and white picture, bet that was taken years ago when we used to use Brownings to grow tomatoes on they were so common !
By: - 7th March 2008 at 14:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Turret or wing mounted what is the difference??
Hello All and thankyou for the info, I have located a pair of English version 303Brownings i wont tell you what they are costing its scary. I have one more request can anyone tell me the difference between the wing mounted and turret mounted guns? A picture of the turret version would be even better before I hand over my hard earned cash and buy a lemon.
Thanks again
By: - 7th March 2008 at 15:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As Tangmere and I were discussing earlier turret guns and the Mosquito's machine guns are normally fitted with flash hiders. That doesn't mean that they are not turret guns if there are no flash hiders as these were only sheet metal so may have succomed to the passage of time also there is a possibility that they were unscrwewed at some stage and subsequently lost. Added to that is the fact that not all turret guns had flash hiders as far as I know. Sorry not to be more positive.
By: - 7th March 2008 at 15:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As Tangmere and I were discussing earlier turret guns and the Mosquito's machine guns are normally fitted with flash hiders. That doesn't mean that they are not turret guns if there are no flash hiders as these were only sheet metal so may have succomed to the passage of time also there is a possibility that they were unscrwewed at some stage and subsequently lost. Added to that is the fact that not all turret guns had flash hiders as far as I know. Sorry not to be more positive.
Thanks Mike I understand the mountings on the turret/wing mounted guns are different? Can you confirm or deny this?
By: - 7th March 2008 at 15:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sorry I can't say one way or the other but I imagine that's true. If I'm wrong someone will correct me I'm sure.
By: - 7th March 2008 at 16:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thank you for confirming my suspicion. I figured they would be. If I'm not mistaken they'd also be fitted for different trigger systems.
By the way Tankbarrel they could .be .303 as we had the same style guns in that calibre in our Ferrets.
By: - 7th March 2008 at 16:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, the mountings are quite different.
I think the end is different to take the cone shaped flash eliminator, or is it the middle just unscrews ? I have never seen one good enough to tell. If you need a cone shaped flash eliminator I know someone who has a minter
Anyway Box Brownie ? thats advanced thought you still sketched things,
By: - 7th March 2008 at 17:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Thank you for confirming my suspicion. I figured they would be. If I'm not mistaken they'd also be fitted for different trigger systems.
By the way Tankbarrel they could .be .303 as we had the same style guns in that calibre in our Ferrets.
I doubt it, the Ferret Browning was originally .30 cal (.30-06) and later on 7.62mm (.308 Winchester) .303 was only used in rifles, Brens and Vickers in the British Army.
By: - 7th March 2008 at 17:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm afraid I cannot provide an illustration of it but the cone should narrow to a parrallel section which is the bit that screws onto the muzzle.
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By: Graham Adlam - 6th March 2008 at 22:40
Does anyone know where I could buy a deacivated 303 aircraft Browning preferably the turret version. I have seen them at airojumbles so I guess there are a few about. Any help would be greatfully recieved.