Read the forum code of contact
By: 21st January 2006 at 17:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Are you really sure that first one isn't just a Su-33?
Anyways, I'm quite interested in the UB, so any pictures and data would be welcome! How many do they have? Still that single one? Or is the picture you posted just a new one, hence with some additions?
By: 21st January 2006 at 17:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Sukhoi was supposed to be building a second one. Both of the jets pictured above are the same aircraft, Bort 21.
By: 21st January 2006 at 17:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The Su-33UB (Su-27KUB) has completly overworked wings, canards and AFAIK also modified horizontal stabilizers.
Wingspan has been increased to 16,70 m and wing area to 70 m².
By: 21st January 2006 at 18:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-...It must have been taken on one of the press days - it certainly wasn't there on the public days that I attended or I would have spotted it !!!
...
Do you mean MAKS 2005, because of the Dassault Falcon 900 bizjet in the background?
By: 21st January 2006 at 19:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Do you mean MAKS 2005, because of the Dassault Falcon 900 bizjet in the background?
Yes - MAK 2005....
There were a few bizjets at MAKS 05 - they didn't appear on my radar, being non-russian, so I didn't photograph them :-
Saturday...
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/visits2-pages/mos2005_day04.html
Sunday:-
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/visits2-pages/mos2005_day05.html
The Su-33UB (Su-27KUB) has completly overworked wings, canards and AFAIK also modified horizontal stabilizers.
Wingspan has been increased to 16,70 m and wing area to 70 m².
The wingfold is further outboard - and the wings are vertical when folded (although I have yet to see a photo of them folded on the a/c).
The horizontal stabilisers are bigger - and do not fold.
Ken
By: 21st January 2006 at 20:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Does anybody know the designation of the optronics pod on the Su-27SM in ken's Maks-05 photos??? (the plane is also carrying a Sapsan E pod).
By the way they are amazing photos and I am extremely jealous that you have the skill to take them.
By: 21st January 2006 at 21:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Does anybody know the designation of the optronics pod on the Su-27SM in ken's Maks-05 photos??? (the plane is also carrying a Sapsan E pod).
By the way they are amazing photos and I am extremely jealous that you have the skill to take them.
It is the acquisition head from the KAB-500T TV-guided bomb - essentially the TV seeker head - complete with fixed canard foreplanes - with the rear end closed by a fairing.
I am sure we have dicussed its designation on this forum before - but I can't find it just now.... :o
Ken
By: 21st January 2006 at 22:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks ken.
By: 22nd January 2006 at 10:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I looked via google through pic galeries from the MAKS 2005.
There was no pic of the SU-27KUB, so I presume, the SU-27KUB was not shown on the public days.
Posts: 3,652
By: Flanker_man - 21st January 2006 at 16:57
I just found the enclosed B&W photo of the Su-27KUB.
It must have been taken on one of the press days - it certainly wasn't there on the public days that I attended or I would have spotted it !!!
The interesting thing is the canards - note the dog tooth on the leading edge.
This is a new addition - the canards are already bigger than the 'standard' Su-35/Su-33/Su-34 canards - but it looks like they have had to add additional area...???
This colour photo shows the Su-27KUB in an earlier guise - with the original shape canards.
Ken