By: flex297
- 12th April 2005 at 17:07Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I read a Polish PKR book revcently, the Yak was a real disaster when it comes to range, payload and sensors plus a real b@tch to fly, actually Ka-29 carrierborne battle helicopters were evaluated as more effective.. Go figure.. ;)
But the banana Jak-38U is credited with first and probably the only underwater ejection in aerial history ;) Until then even Zvezda developers had no idea the K-36 could actually work in water..
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By: Blackcat
- 20th April 2005 at 19:57Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is a whole list of a/c that Yak produced till date in this link.
It mentions the total number of Yak-38 produced as 231 a/c. So how was the Yak-38 distributed to the forces, accidental losses, reserves etc etc?? ..... anyone in here got records of the same??..
I also got to see from the link that, it was Yak-9 which they built in very large numbers during the preiod 1942-1948, totalling 16,769 aircraft.
BTW, understanding the translation of the earlier posted link isn't helping me much as its also very tiresome. So can someone over here provide some good info, as the page seems to contain good info, which is getting lost in the translation.
But the Afghanistan section does mentions abt the improvements/modifications that was carried out on Yak-38 from their short stay in there.
By: Crusader
- 20th April 2005 at 22:13Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
yup ur correct there, i shud have mentioed the NAVAL V/STOL, i guess, the Sea Harrier came in only in the start of the 80s and they did not had to wait long to get crowned. So in that sense the Yak-38 was the operational naval V/STOL a/c.
By: Flanker_man
- 21st April 2005 at 12:12Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The first Harrier to fly was XV276 on 31st August 1966. The Yak-141 appears to still be around.
It is only 'around' in the Russian AF museum at Monino......
and a Yak-38 for interest..................
Ken
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By: Anonymous
- 21st April 2005 at 12:55Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
how would the forger do in air combat? its performance seems worse than a vought corsair and that is an attack jet with similar a2a weapons, heat seekers and a gun.
are there any combat reports from afghanistan online we can read? will acig have any online? was any forgers lost in afghanistan to enemy fire, maybe stinger missiles?
what range does the ranging radar have in the nose, is it range only?
does the forger need a targetting pod to use the kerry missile?
By: Anonymous
- 22nd April 2005 at 04:50Permalink- Edited 16th October 2019 at 10:23
does the forger need a targetting pod to use the kerry missile?
The original AS-7 radio command guided missile was crap.
From a single seat figher you'd be better off with an S-24 or S-25 unguided rocket.
The later Laser homing AS-10 would be better, but the Kievs were anti sub carriers, not fleet carriers.
The Forger was for engaging naval helos, MPAs and ships with bombs and unguided rockets.
It was a Yak-38... even numbers are not fighters. The Yak-41 or Yak-141 was a fighter. (there are exceptions of course... Tu-95 isn't a fighter... but they are all Tu-142 airframe based now anyway, and of course the Su-25 is a CAS not a fighter but the Yak-38 is correctly numbered as basically a vertical takeoff Su-25 but without the armour or weapons capability or the gun etc etc).
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By: flex297 - 12th April 2005 at 17:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I read a Polish PKR book revcently, the Yak was a real disaster when it comes to range, payload and sensors plus a real b@tch to fly, actually Ka-29 carrierborne battle helicopters were evaluated as more effective.. Go figure.. ;)
But the banana Jak-38U is credited with first and probably the only underwater ejection in aerial history ;) Until then even Zvezda developers had no idea the K-36 could actually work in water..
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By: Blackcat - 20th April 2005 at 19:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is a whole list of a/c that Yak produced till date in this link.
It mentions the total number of Yak-38 produced as 231 a/c. So how was the Yak-38 distributed to the forces, accidental losses, reserves etc etc?? ..... anyone in here got records of the same??..
I also got to see from the link that, it was Yak-9 which they built in very large numbers during the preiod 1942-1948, totalling 16,769 aircraft.
BTW, understanding the translation of the earlier posted link isn't helping me much as its also very tiresome. So can someone over here provide some good info, as the page seems to contain good info, which is getting lost in the translation.
But the Afghanistan section does mentions abt the improvements/modifications that was carried out on Yak-38 from their short stay in there.
Flex,
can u post anything more on those??
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By: Crusader - 20th April 2005 at 22:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
US Marine AV-8As were at sea long before 1975.
And didn't they use Yak-38s in Red Dawn? :D
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By: Lightndattic - 20th April 2005 at 22:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The F-35's main nozzle swivels to 100 degrees. It can hover backwards, it just can't VIFF like a harrier in high speed flight.
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By: GaryM - 21st April 2005 at 11:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Harrier and the Russian 141
The first Harrier to fly was XV276 on 31st August 1966. The Yak-141 appears to still be around.
By: Anonymous - 21st April 2005 at 11:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
nice lovely russian plane in good colours nice to see the camo variants.:)
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By: Flanker_man - 21st April 2005 at 12:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It is only 'around' in the Russian AF museum at Monino......
and a Yak-38 for interest..................
Ken
By: Anonymous - 21st April 2005 at 12:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
how would the forger do in air combat? its performance seems worse than a vought corsair and that is an attack jet with similar a2a weapons, heat seekers and a gun.
are there any combat reports from afghanistan online we can read? will acig have any online? was any forgers lost in afghanistan to enemy fire, maybe stinger missiles?
what range does the ranging radar have in the nose, is it range only?
does the forger need a targetting pod to use the kerry missile?
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By: SteveO - 21st April 2005 at 14:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Some good info on Soviet Jet VTOL projects here http://www.vectorsite.net/avredvt.html
By: Anonymous - 22nd April 2005 at 04:50 Permalink - Edited 16th October 2019 at 10:23
The original AS-7 radio command guided missile was crap.
From a single seat figher you'd be better off with an S-24 or S-25 unguided rocket.
The later Laser homing AS-10 would be better, but the Kievs were anti sub carriers, not fleet carriers.
The Forger was for engaging naval helos, MPAs and ships with bombs and unguided rockets.
It was a Yak-38... even numbers are not fighters. The Yak-41 or Yak-141 was a fighter. (there are exceptions of course... Tu-95 isn't a fighter... but they are all Tu-142 airframe based now anyway, and of course the Su-25 is a CAS not a fighter but the Yak-38 is correctly numbered as basically a vertical takeoff Su-25 but without the armour or weapons capability or the gun etc etc).
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By: SteveO - 24th April 2005 at 12:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
More info/pics on Yak VTOL projects here (in French) http://prototypes.free.fr/yak36/yak36-1.htm