By: Arthur
- 16th July 2005 at 19:23Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Zdravstvuy, Rabinowich!
I took the liberty of downloading your two pictures and attaching them to my post, to save your bandwith a bit. Thanks for explaining the details of the Magnyi-antenna. As you can see on the third pic (credit and copyright at Paul Nann with me claiming fair-use), the MiG-21 in Brussels also has that antenna. This nicely deconstructs my theory that this is an ex-Egyptian machine.
On a sidenote: the future of former Czechoslovak MiG-21PF 0403 seems to be improving... :)
By: LIKA
- 16th July 2005 at 21:27Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This US used MiG 21 F-13 doesn't seem to have the antenna in question
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By: rabinowich
- 16th July 2005 at 23:05Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This US used MiG 21 F-13 doesn't seem to have the antenna in question
Hello dear LIKA
I spoke about it in previous post :)
It is authentically known, that system "Magniy" which aerial was above a fuselage, had the early export series received by Indonesia in 1962, by India and Finland in 1963.
MiG-21F-13 for the countries of the Warsaw pact had system "Chrom".
Late export series MiG-21F-13 had aerial "Magniy" from below a fuselage.
Defected Iraq MiG and tested in Groom Lake have this variant.
Means MiG-21 "80965"USAF is not ex-Indonesian.
PS: your photo mirror ;)
The gun port on MiG-21F-13 is located only on the right.
By: GoldenDragon
- 17th July 2005 at 17:31Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
:))
Man, that Mig-21 in US markings look nice!
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By: flex297
- 18th July 2005 at 12:16Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hi Fabe,
The aircraft is definately from Burkina Faso. Other images of aircraft from that country contain the same hanger. I would happily post them here, but i do not wish to be banned lol :rolleyes:
By: Nijmeijer
- 23rd July 2005 at 00:59Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I spoke about it in previous post :)
It is authentically known, that system "Magniy" which aerial was above a fuselage, had the early export series received by Indonesia in 1962, by India and Finland in 1963.
Egypt also received some MiG-21F-13 aircraft with the "Magniy" aerial.
By: lovemigs
- 23rd July 2005 at 13:18Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
thanks for all the photos guys, I just love mig-21, all time favorite:)
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By: rabinowich
- 23rd July 2005 at 15:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Egypt also received some MiG-21F-13 aircraft with the "Magniy" aerial.
Hello dear Nijmeijer
It so if to trust pictures ACIG.org http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_262.shtml
However Egyptian MiG-21F-13 up to 1967 I at all have not found PHOTOS.
There is a photo from 1969, 26th Sqn, "5843". (History of Aviation #3/2001)
By number it is the plane from the second set received in 1963.
In this photo aerials of system "Chrom" are clearly visible.
By: Nijmeijer
- 24th July 2005 at 16:58Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hello dear Nijmeijer
It so if to trust pictures ACIG.org http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_262.shtml
However Egyptian MiG-21F-13 up to 1967 I at all have not found PHOTOS.
There is a photo from 1969, 26th Sqn, "5843". (History of Aviation #3/2001)
By number it is the plane from the second set received in 1963.
In this photo aerials of system "Chrom" are clearly visible.
Hello,
I have found a picture of an Egypt AF MiG-21F-13 in a book which has the "Magniy" aerial (MiG-21F-13 5006 pictured on 26 October 1964).
I think this IFF system is also known as SRO-1 Bariy-M.
The picture of MiG-21F-13 5843 was not taken in 1969 but I think in 1981.
It was first published in Air International april 1982 (in full colour) and was taken by Denis Hughes.
By: Thewanderer
- 24th July 2005 at 18:41Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Great thread.
I am particularly interested in Madagascar Air Force.
Does anyone have other pictures of the Mig-21 that were once operated by this country.
Does anyone also know what happen to them and where they are nowadays???
By: LIKA
- 25th July 2005 at 17:35Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As for the first two pictures ( MiG 21PFM and MiG 21 UM) they are both ex DDR aircraft earmarked for Iran but not delivered. The third one is a Chinese built F-7 M and those were acquired by IRIAF
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By: Arthur - 16th July 2005 at 19:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Zdravstvuy, Rabinowich!
I took the liberty of downloading your two pictures and attaching them to my post, to save your bandwith a bit. Thanks for explaining the details of the Magnyi-antenna. As you can see on the third pic (credit and copyright at Paul Nann with me claiming fair-use), the MiG-21 in Brussels also has that antenna. This nicely deconstructs my theory that this is an ex-Egyptian machine.
On a sidenote: the future of former Czechoslovak MiG-21PF 0403 seems to be improving... :)
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By: LIKA - 16th July 2005 at 21:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This US used MiG 21 F-13 doesn't seem to have the antenna in question
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By: rabinowich - 16th July 2005 at 23:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hello dear LIKA
I spoke about it in previous post :)
It is authentically known, that system "Magniy" which aerial was above a fuselage, had the early export series received by Indonesia in 1962, by India and Finland in 1963.
MiG-21F-13 for the countries of the Warsaw pact had system "Chrom".
Late export series MiG-21F-13 had aerial "Magniy" from below a fuselage.
![http://rabinowich.narod.ru/21/havedoughnutfrontext.jpg](http://rabinowich.narod.ru/21/havedoughnutfrontext.jpg)
Defected Iraq MiG and tested in Groom Lake have this variant.
Means MiG-21 "80965"USAF is not ex-Indonesian.
PS: your photo mirror ;)
![http://rabinowich.narod.ru/21/havedoughnutcolor4.jpg](http://rabinowich.narod.ru/21/havedoughnutcolor4.jpg)
The gun port on MiG-21F-13 is located only on the right.
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By: Kwon_Tae_Hoon - 17th July 2005 at 14:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Add some picture
Finland
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By: Kwon_Tae_Hoon - 17th July 2005 at 14:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
MiG-21F-13 in USA
:))
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By: GoldenDragon - 17th July 2005 at 17:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Man, that Mig-21 in US markings look nice!
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By: flex297 - 18th July 2005 at 12:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
[email]martin.gula@bshg.com[/email] ;)
plz... I won't ban you, that's promised... :D
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By: Nijmeijer - 23rd July 2005 at 00:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Egypt also received some MiG-21F-13 aircraft with the "Magniy" aerial.
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland
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By: LN Strike Eagle - 23rd July 2005 at 01:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Romanian AF - seen at RAF Waddington at the end of June.
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By: Karpedijem - 23rd July 2005 at 12:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Polish Air Force -41 fighter squadron in Malbork
http://www.flyshark.republika.pl/Samoloty_pliki/41_eskadra_.htm
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By: lovemigs - 23rd July 2005 at 13:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
thanks for all the photos guys, I just love mig-21, all time favorite:)
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By: rabinowich - 23rd July 2005 at 15:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hello dear Nijmeijer
It so if to trust pictures ACIG.org
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_262.shtml
However Egyptian MiG-21F-13 up to 1967 I at all have not found PHOTOS.
There is a photo from 1969, 26th Sqn, "5843". (History of Aviation #3/2001)
By number it is the plane from the second set received in 1963.
In this photo aerials of system "Chrom" are clearly visible.
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By: Nijmeijer - 24th July 2005 at 16:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hello,
I have found a picture of an Egypt AF MiG-21F-13 in a book which has the "Magniy" aerial (MiG-21F-13 5006 pictured on 26 October 1964).
I think this IFF system is also known as SRO-1 Bariy-M.
The picture of MiG-21F-13 5843 was not taken in 1969 but I think in 1981.
It was first published in Air International april 1982 (in full colour) and was taken by Denis Hughes.
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland
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By: Thewanderer - 24th July 2005 at 18:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Great thread.
I am particularly interested in Madagascar Air Force.
Does anyone have other pictures of the Mig-21 that were once operated by this country.
Does anyone also know what happen to them and where they are nowadays???
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By: dan_pub - 24th July 2005 at 23:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Some pics were posted in one of the "small airforces" threads. Check itPosts: 54
By: Kwon_Tae_Hoon - 25th July 2005 at 11:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
MiG-21 Egypt
I have another one.
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By: PilotDKH - 25th July 2005 at 17:11 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
MIG-21s of the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF)
Possibly captured from Iraq
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By: LIKA - 25th July 2005 at 17:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As for the first two pictures ( MiG 21PFM and MiG 21 UM) they are both ex DDR aircraft earmarked for Iran but not delivered. The third one is a Chinese built F-7 M and those were acquired by IRIAF
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By: PilotDKH - 25th July 2005 at 17:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
LIKA are you sure about the first two pictures? Does the IRIAF operate more MIG-21s?
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By: rabinowich - 25th July 2005 at 18:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hello dear Nijmeijer
The respondent-system name is "Bariy", a requester-system name is "Magniy".
I have found five :eek: variants of aerials IFF MiG-21F-13,
see http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?p=603807#post603807