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By: - 13th December 2021 at 23:33 Permalink
I can see that B25 going to the states....
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By: - 13th December 2021 at 23:49 Permalink
"Reason for disposal: Completeness/Condition" - forgive my ignorance, does the RAF Museum not restore exhibits for display?
By: - 14th December 2021 at 00:43 Permalink
Wait til the lanc gets put up for disposal... 'ducks behind wall' :)
By: - 14th December 2021 at 10:13 Permalink
By: Peter - 13th December 2021 at 23:33I can see that B25 going to the states....
Does 'other Accredited museums' exclude or include those outside the UK?
By: - 15th December 2021 at 08:55 Permalink
If no museum in the UK requests it then they can go wider so the states is still possible. Who would want a B-25 that hasn't got one and could look after it?
By: - 15th December 2021 at 09:40 Permalink
Perhaps that's a question that Peter can answer?
If one or more of the aircraft notified for disposal is not requested by a UK museum, is it only overseas museums (presumably non profit making organisations) who can request such aircraft and are the aircraft then transferred on loan rather than on unconditional transfer of ownership?
By: - 17th December 2021 at 02:04 Permalink
I would think if no UK museum shows interest then overseas options would be the next best thing
By: - 17th December 2021 at 12:47 Permalink
I wonder what thought process is behind some of these disposals? Why the need to remove aircraft such as the Mitchell, what is going in its place, its incredibly relevant to the RAF story so do they expect to find an affordable RAF example or is it a case of too many people with no idea of the history of the RAF?
By: - 17th December 2021 at 15:51 Permalink
At some stage the Wellington will return from Cosford, so that might go in the slot. I do agree, though, that the B-25 is a significant type, and certainly deserves its place at Hendon. The 2 seat FW190 sits in that gallery, and whilst it is a fascinating and historic aeroplane and exhibit, surely has a lesser place that the Mitchell in the story of the Royal Air Force.
By: - 17th December 2021 at 17:05 Permalink
There's more a load of loans from Cosford and also a lot of disposals from Duxford.
https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/644242-raf-museum-latest-loan-…
By: - 17th December 2021 at 17:32 Permalink
Thank you, Tony. That link provides an answer to the question I posed in my previous post.
By: - 19th December 2021 at 23:04 Permalink
How "complete" is the Mustang?
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By: - 25th December 2021 at 22:56 Permalink
I'm pretty sure the Mustang in question was airworthy when it was donated
By: - 26th December 2021 at 10:30 Permalink
The Duck was the airworthy P-51 which is at Hendon, the one they are looking to dispose of is the bitsa which is at Cosford
TT
By: - 26th December 2021 at 18:04 Permalink
Going up to Hendon tomorrow so will look out for anything on the move. How far off are the Hampden and Wellington being ready to move from Cosford? Or is that still a few years away?
By: - 27th December 2021 at 15:09 Permalink - Edited 27th December 2021 at 15:10
Just back from Hendon. I felt like meeting a ex girlfriend who you once loved very much and after several years you meet again and you are massively disappointed and long for the past.
I must have been to Hendon 30+ times over 43 years and it gets less exciting each time. Quiet when I got there just after 10, but busy by 11. I largely avoided Hangar 1, it is not a museum really. Hangar 6 (Grahame-White) was a good as ever and thankfully quiet. I still love to wonder how the Fe2b and Gunbus ever flew let alone fought a war! Hangar 5 still seems half empty and just full of screens. They could really do with at least a Tucano and a Puma in here.
Of the original hangars there are still small pieces of pleasure to be found. In a small area near the entrance is a lonely cabinet that contains some legendary trophies. Although not RAF linked here is the original Hendon aerial derby trophy from 1919, the MacRobertson and Schlesinger race trophies plus several others, all priceless. The area that detailed Hendon’s history has gone, galleries are still empty. The EH101 has mostly gone, still some bits around like the tail rotor. That leaves a big gap ad there is a big gap in front of the Lanc as the cafe has gone from that area. The bomber hall has improved since my last visit. In some ways anyway. The entire exhibition that covered the USAAF has sadly gone. Now very little exhibition material about Bomber Command and WW2.
It feels like the museum is being sanitized of anything that related to wars and conflict. The aircraft are largely in great condition and nicely displayed, they just mostly lack context. For instance some still have the display boards from the 80's/90's that are much more detailed. The new boards are dumbed down with little aircraft history. I want to know which squadrons, and where, they served. But I am a geek after all.
Rob
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By: TEXANTOMCAT2 - 13th December 2021 at 10:28 - Edited 13th December 2021 at 10:28
https://crm-media.museumsassociation.org/RAFM-aircraft-transfer-list-De…
Whilst IMHO some are understandable and some from the previous list seem to have escaped the chop - the Mitchell is a very odd choice for disposal in my view
TT