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By: - 7th April 2008 at 12:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Would anyone have an idea on the value of the following,Framed signed photo of Guy Gibson inc Wings & photo of his dog "Ni**er".
Douglas Bader signed colour newspaper cutting and dated 12/01/1979.
There are also letters from Johny Johnson, Stanford Tuck.
Also the attached scan which I cannot read the signiture.
Signed 1943 Church Fenton Xmas menu.
There is also a framed pencil drawing of a unkown pilot.
The above are all original and have provenance.
Many thanks will be able to provide more detailed info next weekend
Your best level of enquiry is to go through a specialised auction or sale company to find the values- these may help but bear in mind prices fluctuate regularly due to demand or scarcity.
Having examined the attached photo it appears to be signed "best of luck Joe Soloman".
By the way If the Douglas Bader/Johnnie Johnson pieces reflect thier time with 616 Squadron please may I have facsimile copies ( for museum display)- PM me & let me know.
Cheers Rad.
By: - 7th April 2008 at 12:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Framed signed photo of Guy Gibson inc Wings & photo of his dog "Ni**er".
I'm pretty sure Ni**er never signed any photos.
Moggy
By: - 7th April 2008 at 14:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Memorabilia
There are a few issues to consider with these items:
Framed signed photo of Guy Gibson inc Wings & photo of his dog "Ni**er".
Can you provide the provenance for these items. By that I mean is it possible to prove a continous link all the way back to Gibson? Unfortunately many items of this nature fall down because they are attributed on the basis of anecdote. The anecdotal "evidence" may well be true, but all you can do in these cases is put the tale in front of prospective purchasers and let them make up their own mind. Furthermore, have the items been together throughout or has the group been put together at a later time? It may be possible to provide sound provenance for some items but not the others. If that was the case, the value would possibly be higher if they were assessed separately. That may sound a little odd, but it works like this; if offered at auction the bidding would be based on the demand for the authenticated item(s) and that would decide the price of the whole group. If offered separately the proven item(s) would probably still make about the same figure and the lesser items would then sell on their own merits.
Douglas Bader signed colour newspaper cutting and dated 12/01/1979.
Bader signatures are not all that uncommon. If it can be authenticated and the subject of article is interesting/relevant and if the condition is satisfactory then one of the specialist dealers would have a pretty good idea of what it might be worth at auction. However, the ephemera market is fairly open and it is well worth thorough research on an item like this. Bader might have a bit more general appeal than Gibson but as this could be described as an "affordable item" it might make a reasonable amount.
There are also letters from Johny Johnson, Stanford Tuck.
These are a bit more specialist. Many members of the public will have heard of the other two individuals or be aware of their achievements, but with Johnson and Tuck you really are in the specialist market. Much will depend on the subject, the time and the condition. Any of these factors could make an enormous difference. To sort this out you would need someone specialising in aviation/RAF ephemera, even the specialist auctioneers would admit to making a best guess on them.
I realise that in writing the above I have throughout referred to sale price and I am aware that you are probably not putting them on the market. However, given that they can be classed as irreplaceable this is really the only way to value them. If you do decide to have them valued I would advise that you seek diverse opinions and I should be very interested to hear the outcome.
exmpa
By: - 7th April 2008 at 15:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
They are from a collection of documents/photos that belonged to a friends cousin who has just died, he and his sister want the collection to go on display at the Museum, however some of the other relatives want odd items from the collection assuming they are highly voluble, we are very much against breaking up the collection which was something she treasured and actively added to for many years
She served 4 years in the WRAF and met I understand most of the pilots in the collection and started to correspond with them during the war years and beyond. She herself was engaged twice and both times her fiancée were lost on operations.
I have now got him looking for her service medals, paperwork and other items and her fathers WW1 medals etc as he asked me what this badge was that fell out of a book - it was a WW1 Iron cross 2nd Class !.
She threw nothing away so who knows what else will be found in the many boxes of stored items, so hopefully we will be able to display an extended collection of family memorabilia.
I am hoping to get a more detailed inventory and descriptions after the weekend.
By: - 7th April 2008 at 16:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It all sounds very interesting and very hopeful. If she did indeed keep her correspondence that could help authenticate some of the items and add weight to the authenticity of others. If at all possible, try and keep everything together until it has been fully assessed and researched. If some items have to go then try and get them copied, photographed and if applicable assessed before they are taken. try and ensure that records of disposal are kept in case you have any questions later on.
Good Luck
exmpa
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By: RAF Millom - 4th April 2008 at 11:38
Would anyone have an idea on the value of the following,
Framed signed photo of Guy Gibson inc Wings & photo of his dog "Ni**er".
Douglas Bader signed colour newspaper cutting and dated 12/01/1979.
There are also letters from Johny Johnson, Stanford Tuck.
Also the attached scan which I cannot read the signiture.
Signed 1943 Church Fenton Xmas menu.
There is also a framed pencil drawing of a unkown pilot.
The above are all original and have provenance.
Many thanks will be able to provide more detailed info next weekend