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By: - 8th August 2007 at 10:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is a Flying Flea Archive on the 'net somewhere (I've lost it's address) which will probably tell you. A Google should find it.
Ken Ellis, the editor of our host magazine, is a bit of an authority on the Flea.
Roger Smith.
By: - 8th August 2007 at 11:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is a Flying Flea Archive on the 'net somewhere (I've lost it's address) which will probably tell you. A Google should find it..
This one...?
By: - 8th August 2007 at 12:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
An Armoured Flea? That'd be something to see . . .
By: - 8th August 2007 at 19:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Dr M.D.S Armour of Anstruther,Fife G-AEOJ 30 h.p Anzani Reg 21/10/36 Flown at Scone and from a field near Carnbie. Modified undercarriage fitted, abandoned and broken up during the war.
Source" British Homebuilt Aircraft Since 1920" by Ken Ellis 1975.
By: - 8th August 2007 at 21:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This one...?
http://www.valkyrie.net/~flyingflea/
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XM seems to have a predilection for insects!:)
By: - 9th August 2007 at 10:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The archive linked above (twice:rolleyes: ) states the following...
A temporary set-back occurred when a number of these homebuilt Fleas crashed but detailed investigation by the Royal Aircraft Establishment in England and the French Air Ministry in France revealed the problem and led to the necessary corrections for safe operation.
If that is the case why are they banned over here when they have a good safety record in the USand elsewhere?
John
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By: - 9th August 2007 at 16:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If that is the case why are they banned over here when they have a good safety record in the USand elsewhere? John
John, I think it was only the HM.14 that was "banned" there were a lot of later versions and an HM.293 was built by Bill Cole of Southend - registered as G-AXPG. It first flew in 1972 although I do not know it's current status.
Roger Smith.
By: - 9th August 2007 at 16:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Here`s some info here for you Roger.
I remember XPG at the museum at SEN with G-ADXS, which is now in a sorry state.
By: - 9th August 2007 at 21:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
"Got any Gnat parts please ?"XM seems to have a predilection for insects!:)
Correct, i also 'do' Fleas as well.
Here's a new build G-ADRZ........
By: - 10th August 2007 at 09:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That looks like an 'HM14'.
So which versions are allowed to fly and which not?
On other sites I have seen plans for 'HM14' and 'HM14e'. Is the 'e' version the modified one to remove the dangerous characteristics?
Please excuse my ignorance but I too saw the one in Southend Museum when I was very little and it stuck in my memory. If it's as easy to fly as they say then why aren't there more of them? Looks a nice little home build.
Now, I bet there's a site where all these questions are answered and some kind person is about to send me the link.....;)
Cheers,
John
By: - 10th August 2007 at 10:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
John,
To cut a long story short, the pre-war Flea as built to Mignets 'the book' was unsafe in that it trys to do an outside loop. Close to the ground this resulted in a few accidents. Mignet corrected the design and revised his book by lengthing the fuselage (+ other changes). Modern Flea's built to this modified design happily fly around France, Australia etc...
http://www.users.bigpond.com/ozflea/fleaworld.html
...but here the intervention of WWII and the CAA (to whom the word 'Flea' is a no-no) means you won't see an airworthy Flea in a true sense. Although some modern homebuilts/microlights use the tandem wing design.
Post WWII builds such as Milloms 'G-ADRX' or HM.280.....
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/mus/uk/l-m/millommus.htm
....are purely earth bound even if built true to Mignets book.
Cheers........
By: - 10th August 2007 at 10:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I wonder, how much does it cost to build on of these? The ULM version for example.
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By: des armour - 8th August 2007 at 10:21
AMignet Pou du Ceil was built in Scotland, by a namesake of mine (a Dr Armour) in 1938. Has it survived in a collection?