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By: - 7th October 2011 at 00:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Habu photo.
http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/survivors/pages/picpages/44-73196/44-73196-p03.html
By: - 7th October 2011 at 00:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Platinum Plus
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57010196@N02/5260456218/
Cheers,
Stu
By: - 7th October 2011 at 00:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Tsunami
More interested IMO is the Tsunami link on the Platinum Plus page. Tsunami was of course a Gold Cup winner and was famously flown by Steve Hinton who survived it's crash. I recall Tsunami at some point had contra rotating props like Miss Ashley II which I sadly watched disintegrate back in 1999 when it's Lear Jet horizontal tail tore off destroying a fabulous aircraft.
By: - 7th October 2011 at 02:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
More interested IMO is the Tsunami link on the Platinum Plus page. Tsunami was of course a Gold Cup winner and was famously flown by Steve Hinton who survived it's crash. I recall Tsunami at some point had contra rotating props like Miss Ashley II which I sadly watched disintegrate back in 1999 when it's Lear Jet horizontal tail tore off destroying a fabulous aircraft.
I think you are getting confused. Tsunami was a purpose built racer that never had conta rotating props and took the life of its owner John Sandberg due to flap failure in 1991.
The crash that Steve Hinton survived was of the Red Baron in 1979, due to engine failure, and that was a modified P-51 with contra rotating props.
Richard
By: - 7th October 2011 at 08:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I think you are getting confused. Tsunami was a purpose built racer that never had conta rotating props and took the life of its owner John Sandberg due to flap failure in 1991.
The crash that Steve Hinton survived was of the Red Baron in 1979, due to engine failure, and that was a modified P-51 with contra rotating props.Richard
I believe the Red Barron had a Griffon in it, hence the contra props.
By: - 7th October 2011 at 09:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The story of Tsunami is here: http://tsunam.tripod.com/tsunhist.html
The confusion may be due to the red paint scheme that Tsunami carried in its last year which is slightly reminiscent of the Red Baron scheme.
There's an extensive history of the Red Baron conversion here: http://www.enginehistory.org/Convention/2006/Presentations/LawPete/RedBaron/red_baron_1.shtml
Edit: compare these two images:
By: - 7th October 2011 at 10:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I can remember the 'Red Baron' crash being shown on a Saturday afternoon on ITV's World of Sport in 1979. They were showing the actual race, probably a recording, when she got into trouble and went down!
By: - 7th October 2011 at 16:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Footage of the 1979 race from a US TV sports show is on youtube. The footage includes the Red Baron accident, and an interview with a very youthful Steve Hinton after his recovery in hospital. Watching the footage makes you realise how lucky we are to still have Steve with us...
By: - 7th October 2011 at 16:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
She sounded absolutely awesome - howling along youtube speed attempt thing - Utterly awesome!
By: - 13th October 2011 at 02:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Footage of the 1979 race from a US TV sports show is on youtube. The footage includes the Red Baron accident, and an interview with a very youthful Steve Hinton after his recovery in hospital. Watching the footage makes you realise how lucky we are to still have Steve with us...
Very interesting footage and I remember the crash too. The one thing I didn't can be chaulked up to confabulation. I do beleieve that Steve did pilot Tsunami at some point. Is this correct??
Another interesting item is that Darryl Greenameyer was mentioned and Darryl I believe still holds the world's low altitude speed record in his "homebuilt" F-104 Reb Baron of 1,000mph. Did Darryl previously pilot the Red Baron modified P-51?
Saw Jim Lampley last weekend on HBO's "Friday Night Fights". In later life Jim has become something of a zany character.
Another interesting feature is prop evolution. Today's are rather stubby. At one time Strega had a scimitar styled prop but they have gone back to a more traditional version. The Red Baron had chopped off tips. Another contra rotating prop was Miss Ashley II (mentioned in other threads) which crashed in 1999. It too had a Griffon engine.
Sorry for my initial mistake and thanks for this YouTube link.
Cheers,
Stu
By: - 13th October 2011 at 03:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm after photos of 2 Reno P-51's, the 1st was called Habu & flown by Earl Ketchen & the 2nd is J R Sandbergs Platinum Plus. Anyone have any? Cheers
Search on N5449V for Habu and you will find a few photos.
By: - 13th October 2011 at 12:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Only 2 photos of it as Habu are there but they are too small & can't make the markings out.
By: - 13th October 2011 at 13:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I vaguely remember there being a large model of Red Baron on a plinth on top of the Queens Building at LHR in the late 70s.... or am I dreaming? Can't remember why it was there though!
By: - 13th October 2011 at 17:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Wrong P-51, it was Charles Blairs Excaliber
By: - 14th October 2011 at 09:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
This one:
North American P51 Mustang Excalibur III in the National Air and Space Museum, Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, Washington DC. Charles F. Blair jr. purchased the P-51 Mustang "Blaze of Noon" that Paul Mantz flown to wins in the Bendix Trophy air races in 1946 and 1947. Rechristened "Excalibur III", Blair began setting records. On 31 January 1951 Blair flew non stop from New York to London to test the jet stream, travelling 3,478 miles (5,597 km) at an average speed of 446 miles per hour (718 km/h) in seven hours and 48 minutes setting a record for a piston engine plane. On 29 May of the same year he flew from Bardufoss, Norway to Fairbanks, Alaska flying 3260 non stop miles across the North Pole.
The one on the Queen's building was a reproduction. It would be an interesting question whether this was based on an actual aircraft?
Wiki page about Charles Blair: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_F._Blair,_Jr.
NASM page about Excalibur III: http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?id=A19530088000
By: - 14th October 2011 at 17:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I believe the Red Barron had a Griffon in it, hence the contra props.
Yup, I saw the engine a few months back, but didn't think to take a pic.
By: - 14th October 2011 at 20:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
More interested IMO is the Tsunami link on the Platinum Plus page. Tsunami was of course a Gold Cup winner and was famously flown by Steve Hinton who survived it's crash. I recall Tsunami at some point had contra rotating props like Miss Ashley II which I sadly watched disintegrate back in 1999 when it's Lear Jet horizontal tail tore off destroying a fabulous aircraft.
More importantly the loss of "Miss Ashley II", which I too sadly watched, resulted in the loss of pilot owner Garry Levitz :(
By: - 15th October 2011 at 15:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
From what I remember the Queens Building had a large scale model of Excalibur maybe 1/4 scale but I doubt it was much bigger than that atop a pole with a plaque explaining the significance of the model.
I don't think Darryl Greenameyer ever raced Tsunami. He owned and flew the Bearcat Conquest 1 and was later involved with a Yak 11 which first appeared fitted with a T-33 tail unit and a Pratt and Whitney upfront named Mr Awesome. This aircraft evolved over many years but I don't know where it is now.
Tsunami and her pilot owner were lost when a flap operating rod failed on approach causing an uncontrollable roll. A sad end to a fine aircraft and pilot.
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By: Black Knight - 6th October 2011 at 21:51
I'm after photos of 2 Reno P-51's, the 1st was called Habu & flown by Earl Ketchen & the 2nd is J R Sandbergs Platinum Plus. Anyone have any? Cheers