By: Agent K
- 26th October 2017 at 20:35Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
A quick glance at jobs working FOR the Telegraph:
Work at The Telegraph
Becoming a Telegraph employee means being part of an iconic brand, focused on providing a perspective that allows people to progress in life. We have a culture that rewards performance, values its people and embraces diversity of thought and opinion.
Well f*ck me, there goes another reader..... bye bye JG
By: Agent K
- 26th October 2017 at 22:13Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Problem is BM that JG suscribes to the American way, look after yourself and f*ck everybody else. Don’t give anybody free healthcare, or social care, or love or compassion or anything. Big problem is you can’t hide them or lock them away, they get guns easily and shoot the crap out of you and your loved ones.
By: silver fox
- 26th October 2017 at 22:22Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
BM
I would imagine in John's world these people are not "deserving" of help, therefore by definition an outreach worker is a non job, that may be a harsh assessment, but sadly probably close .
By: Beermat
- 29th October 2017 at 21:15Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
John, I have just read your last again. Do you really, honestly believe that rather than aiming to maximise sales for their clients, those making TV adverts are actually engaged in producing subliminal propaganda for some anti-capitalist overlord? If you do, then you might consider a tinfoil hat as well?
By: John Green
- 30th October 2017 at 11:02Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, I agree, subliminal doesn't come into it. There is however, to my suspicious eye, advertising that tries to alter or shape the way we see the world.
According to my understanding of the meaning of 'decent reticence' there are aspects of daily life that are better left unmentioned. I understand that not everyone will agree. The problem with 'let it all hang out' is that we lose our sensitivity; we lose our sensitivity to be shocked.
By: Beermat
- 30th October 2017 at 15:15Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
And that has what, exactly, to do with the left?
The world has moved on, what matters to people has changed - some of it for the better, some of it for the worse, and which is which depends upon your own priorities and moral compass. None of it was the doing of a political grouping, it was never part of the agenda of the left to change such things.
You have it backwards. Exploration of non-capitalist ideas has often been on the checklist of those who are (or were, if their movements are succesful) radical - but it was only ever that way round. All elephants are grey, but it doesn't follow that if it's grey it's an elephant. Many liberals are left-wing in a right-leaning nation, but there's little correlation the other way, extreme left wingers are very rarely liberal!
Not just some lackey clumsily overstepping the mark, but the actual International Development Secretary (who oversees aid to Palestine) in off-record freelance meetings with political leaders and a lobbyist for Israel and without informing the Foreign Office.
One Minister called him a 'slimeball'. A backbencher said the appointment was 'Unbelievable. Ludicrous. Astonishing'. Even without the cover of anonymity, Sarah Woolaston MP tweeted 'There are times when offered a job that it would be better to advise that another would be more experienced & suited to the role'
This will come back to bite May. It seems that the Chief Whip was part of the ongong cover-up of inappropriate behaviour amongst party members, and now he is not in the Whip's position he will be unable to silence any investigation that reveals this.
Somebody else said this will be May's last mistake. I hope so - she is the embodiment of the Peter principle.
By: Agent K
- 3rd November 2017 at 10:54Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
On a purely common sense point of view I would hope for a Defence Secretary that has at least some experience and knowledge of the defence and the military. As much as he will rely on his more experienced advisors and MoD civil servants, ultimately he will set strategy (at least be accountable for) and that concerns me here.
It is a shame they haven't mastered eye transplants because on the top case I would remove the eyes from the scumbag and transplant them into his victim.
By: John Green
- 15th November 2017 at 10:00Permalink- Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Further to the Church of England's opinions on 'gender matters'.
The D. Tel. reports (Tue. 14th inst) that the chief education officer for the Church and responsible for matters to do with 'tutus' and 'tiaras' is named as Nigel Genders.
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By: Agent K - 26th October 2017 at 20:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
A quick glance at jobs working FOR the Telegraph:
Work at The Telegraph
Becoming a Telegraph employee means being part of an iconic brand, focused on providing a perspective that allows people to progress in life. We have a culture that rewards performance, values its people and embraces diversity of thought and opinion.
Well f*ck me, there goes another reader..... bye bye JG
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By: silver fox - 26th October 2017 at 20:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
AK,
You do realise that ads in the DT are actually aimed to entrap and enslave all liberal thinkers with the aim of re-education:rolleyes:
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By: John Green - 26th October 2017 at 21:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
One swallow does not a summer make. Probably written by a leftie anxious to demonstrate his/her leftie/liberal credentials.
One sees the same brainwashing not only in TV programs but also in TV advertising.
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By: Beermat - 26th October 2017 at 21:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The Guardian explains what the 'non-job' of Outreach Worker actually means. I suggest you read it before giving any more nonsense. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/15/secret-life-homeless-outreach-worker-abuse
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By: Agent K - 26th October 2017 at 22:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Problem is BM that JG suscribes to the American way, look after yourself and f*ck everybody else. Don’t give anybody free healthcare, or social care, or love or compassion or anything. Big problem is you can’t hide them or lock them away, they get guns easily and shoot the crap out of you and your loved ones.
Posts: 686
By: silver fox - 26th October 2017 at 22:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
BM
I would imagine in John's world these people are not "deserving" of help, therefore by definition an outreach worker is a non job, that may be a harsh assessment, but sadly probably close .
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By: Agent K - 29th October 2017 at 13:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I mean, there’s nothing more important right now to be concentrating on....
Mark Garnier investigated by Cabinet Office over sex toy errand
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41794625
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By: Beermat - 29th October 2017 at 21:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
John, I have just read your last again. Do you really, honestly believe that rather than aiming to maximise sales for their clients, those making TV adverts are actually engaged in producing subliminal propaganda for some anti-capitalist overlord? If you do, then you might consider a tinfoil hat as well?
Posts: 6,535
By: John Green - 30th October 2017 at 11:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, I agree, subliminal doesn't come into it. There is however, to my suspicious eye, advertising that tries to alter or shape the way we see the world.
According to my understanding of the meaning of 'decent reticence' there are aspects of daily life that are better left unmentioned. I understand that not everyone will agree. The problem with 'let it all hang out' is that we lose our sensitivity; we lose our sensitivity to be shocked.
Posts: 3,447
By: Beermat - 30th October 2017 at 15:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
And that has what, exactly, to do with the left?
The world has moved on, what matters to people has changed - some of it for the better, some of it for the worse, and which is which depends upon your own priorities and moral compass. None of it was the doing of a political grouping, it was never part of the agenda of the left to change such things.
You have it backwards. Exploration of non-capitalist ideas has often been on the checklist of those who are (or were, if their movements are succesful) radical - but it was only ever that way round. All elephants are grey, but it doesn't follow that if it's grey it's an elephant. Many liberals are left-wing in a right-leaning nation, but there's little correlation the other way, extreme left wingers are very rarely liberal!
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By: trekbuster - 1st November 2017 at 19:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Looks like Mike has Fallon on his sword.
New Defence Secretary required
anyone..... anyone?
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By: John Green - 1st November 2017 at 20:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I don't blame him. He's probably extremely 'hacked' off with having his portfolio treated as if it was of no account. On the other hand......!
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By: TonyT - 2nd November 2017 at 16:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Shotgun.... Not a problem, how many would you like? Sparklers or fireworks..... Whooo there, they are dangerous and you might hurt someone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41811499
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By: Beermat - 3rd November 2017 at 10:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
To avoid accusations of bias, this is the Telegraph's take on something that would have been a major scandal a few years ago but now just seems background noise: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/03/priti-patel-accused-failing-disclose-meetings-israel/
Not just some lackey clumsily overstepping the mark, but the actual International Development Secretary (who oversees aid to Palestine) in off-record freelance meetings with political leaders and a lobbyist for Israel and without informing the Foreign Office.
Posts: 3,447
By: Beermat - 3rd November 2017 at 10:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Meanwhile, in home news: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/02/gavin-williamson-replaces-michael-fallon-as-defence-secretary
One Minister called him a 'slimeball'. A backbencher said the appointment was 'Unbelievable. Ludicrous. Astonishing'. Even without the cover of anonymity, Sarah Woolaston MP tweeted 'There are times when offered a job that it would be better to advise that another would be more experienced & suited to the role'
This will come back to bite May. It seems that the Chief Whip was part of the ongong cover-up of inappropriate behaviour amongst party members, and now he is not in the Whip's position he will be unable to silence any investigation that reveals this.
Somebody else said this will be May's last mistake. I hope so - she is the embodiment of the Peter principle.
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By: TonyT - 3rd November 2017 at 10:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
GOOD MAN..... Or WOMAN
http://news.sky.com/story/for-11-minutes-donald-trumps-twitter-ceased-to-exist-11110829
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By: Agent K - 3rd November 2017 at 10:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
On a purely common sense point of view I would hope for a Defence Secretary that has at least some experience and knowledge of the defence and the military. As much as he will rely on his more experienced advisors and MoD civil servants, ultimately he will set strategy (at least be accountable for) and that concerns me here.
Posts: 8,984
By: TonyT - 3rd November 2017 at 20:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
These little b*stards should never see freedom again, and personally I'd bring back hanging and watch them dangle.
https://news.sky.com/story/teen-held-over-life-threatening-acid-attack-which-left-driver-likely-to-lose-sight-in-both-eyes-11111678
As for these 6 years is nothing
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/acid-attack-london-jailed-two-men-car-attack-virginia-quay-a8032326.html
It is a shame they haven't mastered eye transplants because on the top case I would remove the eyes from the scumbag and transplant them into his victim.
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By: John Green - 15th November 2017 at 10:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Further to the Church of England's opinions on 'gender matters'.
The D. Tel. reports (Tue. 14th inst) that the chief education officer for the Church and responsible for matters to do with 'tutus' and 'tiaras' is named as Nigel Genders.
Delicious !
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By: Agent K - 24th November 2017 at 22:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Didn’t catch how this one developed, am out this evening, sounds a nasty incident reported by that most revered publication the DM?
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